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post Jun 8 2008, 08:57 PM
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Why does heal suck now? This is a valid, though apparently late, question.


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post Jun 8 2008, 09:23 PM
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Heal is for healing now, not killing x_x


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post Jun 8 2008, 10:01 PM
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How was heal changed? I am unable to log in to see.

Amount healed should = floor((Base Level + INT) / 8) * Base Heal, and delay should be 1 second.
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post Jun 8 2008, 10:04 PM
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It's not just heal. Some kind of bug seems to have introduced an aspd-like after-cast delay on top of the normal after-cast delay for most skills. It's just noticeable mainly with heal.


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post Jun 8 2008, 10:13 PM
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That's rather odd, aspd normally has no part in fixed skill delay other than half your swing delay is the speed at which you can use the skill. I.E. even super novices with instant cast in strings bragi cannot cast spells faster than twice as fast as their aspd. So if they had 180 aspd (2.5 attacks a second) they could cast spells 5 times a second, at 190 aspd (assuming you can hit the button that fast).

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post Jun 8 2008, 10:18 PM
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Oh? Really? I thought they had to wait until all of the bolts were done hitting. :u Anyways, what Roto said. Heal seems the be the only skill I can really notice the delay on. sad.gif It's such a horrible delay.

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post Jun 8 2008, 10:48 PM
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QUOTE(aznboyandy @ Jun 8 2008, 04:18 PM) *
Oh? Really? I thought they had to wait until all of the bolts were done hitting. :u Anyways, what Roto said. Heal seems the be the only skill I can really notice the delay on. :( It's such a horrible delay.


The time it takes for the bolts to finish hitting is roughly the time bolt spells have as their delay normally, but in Bragi the limiting factor in the number of spells per second you can do can actually end up being your aspd.
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post Jun 8 2008, 11:24 PM
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Ah, I see. Also, with recent testing, I believe that Heal's delay went down a tiny bit with TAR + Conc. pot. So all you priests out there should probably carry conc. pots now. ro-swt.gif Even if you're not battle build. Although, it might not change anything because it was such a minuscule difference.


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post Jun 9 2008, 12:13 AM
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On a related note- I can chain skills again biggrin.gif Musical Strike is good again!


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post Jun 9 2008, 01:12 AM
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This is also noticable for mage jobs who like to cast spells rapidly other than SG. Like chaining JTs. The delay makes it harder to survive without firewall.


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post Jun 9 2008, 02:27 AM
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QUOTE(superkittens @ Jun 8 2008, 02:23 PM) *
Heal is for healing now, not killing x_x


I'm not an Anubis hunter, I'm Full Support, kthx. My heal can't keep up with the damage dealt, is the problem.

Roto, you say it's a bug? That's good to hear; that means it'll be fixed. In the meantime, I should just try to get my aspd up?


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post Jun 9 2008, 03:15 AM
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QUOTE(Leonal @ Jun 8 2008, 09:27 PM) *
I'm not an Anubis hunter, I'm Full Support, kthx. My heal can't keep up with the damage dealt, is the problem.

Roto, you say it's a bug? That's good to hear; that means it'll be fixed. In the meantime, I should just try to get my aspd up?

No, it's not exactly that kind of a bug. It's a client side bug I heard so it's kinda hard to fix then just the normal bug. :<


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QUOTE(Leonal @ Jun 8 2008, 08:27 PM) *
Roto, you say it's a bug? That's good to hear; that means it'll be fixed.



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post Jun 9 2008, 03:43 AM
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QUOTE(aznboyandy @ Jun 8 2008, 08:15 PM) *
No, it's not exactly that kind of a bug. It's a client side bug I heard so it's kinda hard to fix then just the normal bug. :<

thats what ark said, he said those kinda need a reboot, well, is this an official bugs, cause last time we had one of those it couldn't get fixed for the key reason it was official


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Kitti : Oh?
Madoimaru : Seriously, I'm usually rather good at telling genders.
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Kitti : Well I'd been role plating a chick for like 3 years when I met you
-Kazuki- : I bet you can't guess what my gender is
Madoimaru : Um.... It's...?
Whisket : God!
Madoimaru : a rock.
Kitti : Kazu everyone knows your a hermaphrodite
Rand al'Thor : totally
-Kazuki- : ;3;
Whisket : wat
Madoimaru : A hermaphroditic rock god.
Kitti : Yes!
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post Jun 9 2008, 03:49 AM
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Not official.
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post Jun 9 2008, 04:59 AM
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QUOTE(SomalianBirdsOfIre @ Jun 9 2008, 02:19 PM) *
Not official.



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post Jun 9 2008, 08:12 AM
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QUOTE(superkittens @ Jun 8 2008, 10:43 PM) *
thats what ark said, he said those kinda need a reboot, well, is this an official bugs, cause last time we had one of those it couldn't get fixed for the key reason it was official

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post Jun 9 2008, 05:54 PM
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QUOTE(Maiko @ Jun 9 2008, 12:59 AM) *
Not official.

It's not an official -change-, no.
But the bug exists on official servers too, or so I've heard.


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post Jun 9 2008, 06:49 PM
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And, as usual, we have to suffer too, simply because official servers have it?
Doesn't make an ounce of sense.


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post Jun 9 2008, 08:28 PM
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Just to throw out some sanity...

3x: Not official.
aRO Cards: Not official.
May 31 being special: Not official.


We need to find a better excuse than that folks. If you're going to be official, BE OFFICIAL. If you're not, then don't. It looks silly otherwise.


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